Curse

QueenofDeath · Oct 14, 2009, 08:42 PM // 20:42

the R in RA stands for RANDOM for a reason. It's completely random as it's suppose to be. Random arena's and random players with random builds. You can't get any better pvp than this. It's really the most elite and hardest to master pvp in the entire game. Chaos is always more fun to play and watch than organized just look at your history before everything became organized and boring like the warfare of today.

byteme! · Oct 15, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by crazybanshee

Wow I bet his teammates were pissed.

And yet they still got 10 wins in a row. OMG his team mates must be raging!!!

/sarcasm

@OP - I hate to be the guy to say this but I guess I should. You will NEVER be good at PvP ever until you change your attitude. The people in this thread who are calling you bad have reason to do so. You provided the fuel for this. The simple fact that you cannot/will not accept this is your own undoing. When 1 person calls you bad just ignore it but when you have a group of people in this thread alone telling you this then MAYBE just MAYBE you really are bad. Consider that. Do I personally think you're bad? Not sure. Do I think your attitude sucks? Damn straight I do.

You've thus far blamed every team mate you've teamed up with for your lack of success. You fail to realize you are playing in a RANDOM format which means you are playing against opponents who are equally as bad as your team mates minus the occasional syncers.

So how is it that every team that plays against you wins and every team you play with loses? How is it possible after 6 hours of playing against different opponents and playing with different team mates that you still continue to lose? Do you understand that the common denominator within that 6 hour period is you and no one else? Fix your own game before you start blaming others.

Just because "you think" you have a superior build to some one else doesn't imply you are a better player. I suggest you take a step back and re-evaluate the situation.

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Originally Posted by harpharp

thats why i ignore them

some of them didn't even read and comprehend what i stated so clearly on the first post of this thread. For all the nubs who prob were one of those that ran the builds i state above, let me repeat this 3 more times in bold:

First of all you ignore what you don't like to hear so I'm guessing you're one of those types that are difficult to teach which is fine. Second of all you are in NO position to call anyone Nub, Nub. See what I did there?

Maker of the fallen · Oct 15, 2009, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Practice makes perfect, try different things and see what works and what doesn't...Agreed with guy who says you need an attitude change.

Also, the reason it's nearly impossible to max PvP titles is because they are account based and if you could max them as easy as say vanq title, everyone would have "People know Me" on every character. IMO it's just their way of separating PvP from PvE, titles that is.

Glad title doesn't need any adjusting, another way to get the points would be nice but i'm sure people would just find another lazy way around it (Looking at you red resign) instead of playing it correctly.

And lastly, maybe PvP isn't for you if RA makes you feel the need to post rage on guru.

Omgopolis · Oct 15, 2009, 04:40 AM // 04:40

If you're only getting 5 glad points in 18 hours of RA time you're definitely doing something wrong. Even when I'm really unlucky I still manage to get decent teams like 20% of the time. Unless RA has changed dramatically in the last few months, the only way you'll do that poorly for that long is if you're a really bad player that needs 3 good players to carry him to victory.

Instead of running a lame sin roll a ranger. Interrupt important stuff, debshot monks, cripple melee if you do melshot, etc. Nothing speeds up a game faster than stopping the res sigs, dshotting woh, and/or consistently debshotting a monk until his blue bar is empty. It's significantly tougher to do well than roll your face from 1 to 7 on your keyboard, but it'll net you way more wins than playing a sin.

harpharp · Oct 15, 2009, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

You are attributing an opinion to me which I do not hold. I never said a good player will always win with a bad bar. Many builds are simply imbalanced when it comes to this 1v1 scenario you lay out. The assacaster is such a powerful and yet straightforward build that even a horrible player will get good results. RA is like any other format partly a game of rock, paper, scissors. This is not limited to RA but it is possibly more common there due to its random nature.

I'm also skeptical to this experience you all seem to have with RA being full of wammos and flare eles. I can't remember the last time I saw an actual w/mo with breeze or an ele spamming flare. It is far more common to run into an ele with a build found on wiki.

Rofl this highlights your "ignorance". Why? because even having wammmos or flare eles are a blessing!

. Just earlier together in 5 matches played i already encountered a mesmer casting frenzy and warrior using hundred blades. RA is just that bad, or its my luck w/e. For the record, i never cared about titles that had no meaning to it. I would rather display a title that requires some real skill rather then a shit title that has no meaning to it.

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Originally Posted by Meridon

OP is forgettnig/ignoring the importance of player skill.

You can QQ all you want about Mending Wammo's being on your team, but it doesn't support your argument, claiming it's what makes you lose. Why? Because these Mending Wammo's are on the other team just as often as they are on yours. That's why it's random.

The skill level in RA is relatively low compared to other types of PvP, both in terms of player skill and build effectiveness. You'll see PvE newbies running around with a 55 monk, minion master, or trapper more often in RA than you'll do in GvG. In other words, most teams in RA suck.

This is where you come in. You should be knowing better than those people. You should be knowing what build to run, how to run it, what equipment to use, how to use it, how the maps are played, and how to work with your teammates against the opposing team. If you are any good at doing all of this, then you're easily better than the average RA player.

In turn, this makes your team more likely to win. Think about it, who do you think will win in a match between 4 idiots versus 3 idiots + 1 decent player? If you are anywhere better than average as you claim to be, you should have no problem winning.

Also, your build is not your only key to victory. Going by your logic, who would win in a 1v1, if both players would run the exact same builds and equipment? Of course, it will be the player who is more skilled. On the aspect of your build, the assassin profession is known to not take much skill to be used effectively, though on the other hand even with a skilled player the build can only do so much. It's potential is just limited. If you think you're not earning enough gladiator points, and it's not your own skill level that needs improvement, you need to consider changing builds to something with more potential, for example a ranger, a necro, or a monk. All of these professions, while not being the most devastating in RA, pack a huge amount of utility, which can easily mean the key to your victory, provided they are played correctly.

Either way, if you feel you should be getting gladiatior points sooner / get the HoM monument sooner, it's certainly not the game's fault. The most imporant thing in PvP has always been assessing your own performance, and from there on making changes to improve your performance.

Thats the problem. I never had a problem winning matches. but when your talking abt getting glad points only by winning 5 in a row, at round 3/4 your bound to find a decent group that isn't bad. So who will win, the 3 idiots + decent player or a decent 4 players team that can counter your builds? thats not even taking into account syncers and the numerous time i left
because theres no monk in my teams. If my build weren't working so well match vs match wise, i would have stop using it long ago.

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Originally Posted by byteme!

And yet they still got 10 wins in a row. OMG his team mates must be raging!!!
First of all you ignore what you don't like to hear so I'm guessing you're one of those types that are difficult to teach which is fine. Second of all you are in NO position to call anyone Nub, Nub. See what I did there?

for all you know it could be a sync team in disguise.

IF you actually read the whole thread, which i seriously doubt, the reason why i am calling them nubs is because some of these idiots who has nothing constructive to add were calling me bad and most imptly, "LYING" that theres no way i can get 5 glad points in a double weekend when i had clearly stated it so clearly on the first post of this thread that i was talking abt the glad points i got in "3 DAYS", not 2, hence calling them nubs when they already fail at reading comprehension, get it?

*facepalm*

i already don't want to talk abt my build. If it wasn't working well for me match vs match wise, (it was the 5 consecutive wins in a row
that got me) i would have swap back to my holy veil w/mo I have nothing else to say because i am being measured for my wins in RA.( a utterly stupid format where you don't get to choose your teammates ) when some people had no idea the matches and teams i am in and theres no damage meter addon or match report stuff i can add to prove anything unless someone made an addon of that sort for guild wars.

*lemming* · Oct 15, 2009, 06:33 AM // 06:33

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Originally Posted by harpharp

Rofl this highlights your "ignorance". Why? because even having wammmos or flare eles are a blessing!

. Just earlier together in
5 matches played i already encountered a mesmer casting frenzy and warrior using hundred blades. RA is just that bad, or its my
luck w/e. For the record, i never cared about titles that had no meaning to it. I would rather display a title that requires some real skill rather then a shit title that has no meaning to it.

We

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Originally Posted by harpharp

Thats the problem. I never had a problem winning matches. but when your talking abt getting glad points only by winning 5 in a
row, at round 3/4 your bound to find a decent group that isn't bad. So who will win, the 3 idiots + decent player or a decent
4 players team that can counter your builds? thats not even taking into account syncers and the numerous time i left
because theres no monk in my teams. If my build weren't working so well match vs match wise, i would have stop using it long ago.

don't

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Originally Posted by harpharp

IF you actually read the whole thread, which i seriously doubt, the reason why i am calling them nubs is because some of these
idiots who has nothing constructive to add were calling me nubs and most imptly, "LYING" that theres no way i can get 5 glad points
in a double weekend when i had clearly stated it so clearly on my first post of this thread i was talking abt the glad points
i got in "3 DAYS", not 2, hence calling them nubs when they already fail at reading comprehension, get it?

care.

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Originally Posted by harpharp

i already don't want to talk abt my build. If it wasn't working well for me match vs match wise, (it was the 5 consecutive wins in a row
that got me) i would have swap back to my
holy veil w/mo I have nothing else to say because i am being measured for my wins in RA.( a utterly stupid format where you don't get to choose your teammates ) when some people had no idea
the matches and teams i am in and theres no damage meter addon or match report stuff i can add to prove anything unless someone made an addon of that sort or anything.

P.S. RA isn't the only source of glad points.

RedStar · Oct 15, 2009, 08:02 AM // 08:02

I kind of have some dumb questions : you've been playing RA for how long ? and how many different builds have you played during those "3 days" ?

turbo234 · Oct 15, 2009, 08:30 AM // 08:30

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Originally Posted by harpharp

for all you know it could be a sync team in disguise.

it would have still been a 10 win streak with basically 3v4 in every match. auto attacks hardly count as a person even if you never let off of frenzy.

Squishy ftw · Oct 15, 2009, 10:59 AM // 10:59

You should stop blaming everyone around you and start looking at yourself for a change. Nobody will ever reach perfection and everyone can still learn things. You are no exception to this so I suggest you start improving yourself.

If only you put as much time into learning an actually useful bar (I'd suggest Dev Hammer warrior or any half-decent monk bar) rather than wasting your time on here complaining about your teammates, you might actually get some glad points.

And sure, you will run into idiots in RA but not nearly as much as you're making it out to be.

Stop blaming others. Improve yourself.

own age myname · Oct 15, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53

OP, you're an idiot.

You'll never succeed if you're not willing to take people's advice and if you don't stop blaming fail on other people. Think of it this way, someone murdered another person. The murder's excuse was that the guy was stupid and didn't listen to him, so the murderer took out his gun and shot him. Not the best analogy, but you should get my point.

harpharp · Oct 15, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

You should stop blaming everyone around you and start looking at yourself for a change. Nobody will ever reach perfection and everyone can still learn things. You are no exception to this so I suggest you start improving yourself.

If only you put as much time into learning an actually useful bar (I'd suggest Dev Hammer warrior or any half-decent monk bar) rather than wasting your time on here complaining about your teammates, you might actually get some glad points.

And sure, you will run into idiots in RA but not nearly as much as you're making it out to be.

Stop blaming others. Improve yourself.

exagerrating indeed.

ss wasnt really well done since it was just a quick cut and paste with their names edited out for embarassment

1st link:

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/...ng8800/ABC.jpg

1st ss: ritualist using hamstring,gash
2nd ss: what can i say? this warrior tells everyone that his basically using hundred blades as his elite
3rd ss: mesmer using flurry

2nd link:

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/...g8800/ABC2.jpg

1st ss: warrior who uses frenzy and didnt had a cancel stance while he was being attacked
2nd ss: warrior casting retribution and balth light on himself. 2 other of his skills were endure pain and woh.
i must admit i was actually amazed how he actually managed to heal himself quite a few times with all the bonds he cast

this was taken only after like a whole 15-20 matches i was in, i wasn't even trying as those were ss i took when i refused
to participate in the matches as there were no monk on my team, not even including the numerous wammos and the other ss i took as theres no proof, just mainly me making fun of their build and them asking me to stfu

. and if i could, i can easily run up to 200 screenshots of people using bad builds in just 1 day. But of course none of these matters right? because my simple post on why the reqs to put the trophy up in HOM shld be lowered since RA is a stupid format has become me sucking, me not listening to advice, me needs skill as my idiotproof and effective build doesnt "sync" well with others in RA, me being an idiot, and the list goes on and all because i got 5 glad pts in RA, no matter even if no one had seen me play or no statistics are available and the people who claim that RA needs "skill" is now out for my blood.

Maker of the fallen · Oct 15, 2009, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Here's some good advice not rage: Get three friends whom you can play with, and make the most out of TA's last days

Sankt Hallvard · Oct 15, 2009, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by harpharp

1st ss: ritualist using hamstring,gash
2nd ss: what can i say? this warrior tells everyone that his basically using hundred blades as his elite
3rd ss: mesmer using flurry

1st ss: warrior who uses frenzy and didnt had a cancel stance while he was being attacked
2nd ss: warrior casting retribution and balth light on himself. 2 other of his skills were endure pain and woh.

Must.. resist... urge to.. flame.............

Either you are just trolling or you have just walked up to the guillotine, laughed at the executioner and started throwing tomatoes at the crowd.
I'm gonna keep my cool, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't resist the temptation.

Now let's look at your examples(I didn't get anything from the SS' so I'm basing this on your text info only):

1. Rith with hamstring, gash. Was probably using spirit's strength and with rit energy regen for hamstring-spam that can dish out some pretty high, steady dps in RA. Not bad at all.
2. Hundred blades. Yeah? It's a decent elite. Coupled with barbs this is used across all formats occasionally. Steady dps, newbie friendly. Not bad.
3. Flurrymesmer. I'm assuming illusionary weaponry? Maybe he has a defensive stance also making this an ok build in RA.
4. War not cancelling frenzy. You catch top gvg players stuck in frenzy, you expect to find stronger players in RA?
5. Wammo. Congratulations, you SS a typical wammo. Yes, they are bad.

Out of all that I find only one truly bad build, and in my experience it's not even common. Very rare these days. I think if you are going to post other people's builds you should post your own as well. I'll be eagerly awaiting and I promise you I will give constructive feedback not flames. Yes, seriously.

sonofthort · Oct 15, 2009, 03:00 PM // 15:00

play the game for fun man, don't worry about stupid grinds. RA is a blast if you aren't worried about meaningless glad points. QQ less plox

Reverend Dr · Oct 15, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59

My guild used to play a game, it was called come up with the worst build for RA. Someone would come up with a bad build and later someone would run it. The game ended one day when someone proposed a bar with just primal rage on it (the old primal rage, the one that actually lowered damage when used) and they got a glad point with it (this was back when it took a streak of 10 wins). The game ended after this, there was simply nothing left.

If you don't have at least [insert rank] gladiator then it is due to one and only one reason, you simply have not pushed "enter mission" enough times.

harpharp · Oct 15, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Must.. resist... urge to.. flame.............

Either you are just trolling or you have just walked up to the guillotine, laughed at the executioner and started throwing tomatoes at the crowd.
I'm gonna keep my cool, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't resist the temptation.

Now let's look at your examples(I didn't get anything from the SS' so I'm basing this on your text info only):

1. Rith with hamstring, gash. Was probably using spirit's strength and with rit energy regen for hamstring-spam that can dish out some pretty high, steady dps in RA. Not bad at all.
2. Hundred blades. Yeah? It's a decent elite. Coupled with barbs this is used across all formats occasionally. Steady dps, newbie friendly. Not bad.
3. Flurrymesmer. I'm assuming illusionary weaponry? Maybe he has a defensive stance also making this an ok build in RA.
4. War not cancelling frenzy. You catch top gvg players stuck in frenzy, you expect to find stronger players in RA?
5. Wammo. Congratulations, you SS a typical wammo. Yes, they are bad.

Out of all that I find only one truly bad build, and in my experience it's not even common. Very rare these days. I think if you are going to post other people's builds you should post your own as well. I'll be eagerly awaiting and I promise you I will give constructive feedback not flames. Yes, seriously.

LMAO

since you find the above builds to be working fine, i will share you my build. I even improve it after weeks of RAing. Its practically invincible, just by looking at the skills you will already sense the aura of awesomeness.

enjoy

build code:
OwhjEyi84MHzCGLbYGNJYUsLGA

The best build ever

The Drunkard · Oct 15, 2009, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by harpharp

LMAO

SINCE U FIND TEH ABOV3 BUILDS 2 B WORKNG FIEN I WIL R U MAH BUILD!1111 OMG I 3VAN IMPROV3 IT AFT3R WEKS OF RANEG!1!!1 OMG LOL ITS PRACTICALY INVINCIBLE JUST BY LOKNG AT DA SKILS U WIL ALREADY SENS3 TEH AURA OF AEWSOM3NES!1!11 OMG

I was going to give advice, but your smart-ass aditude urges me otherwise.

If you won't listen to others and complain that everyone else is at fault, I see no point for this thread to continue.

As far as lowering the requirement...no. I got g3 by casual RA for about two months, if you want your pretty display in HoM you're going to have to put some effort in.

/request lock

Sankt Hallvard · Oct 15, 2009, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by harpharp

weeks of RAing
practically invincible
sense the aura of awesomeness.
The best build ever

Shinde, is that you? My Troll Radar Alert System is blinking very fast here now.

Mod alert! Mod alert! Troll detected, requesting immediate lock!

harpharp · Oct 15, 2009, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Me? troll? no way allow me to give u a step by step guide on why my build rocks!

first anguished was lingwah. This perfect item spell allows me to summon a spirit to give great damage even tho it has long casting time because i have plenty of time to cast it before arena starts.

mighty was vorizon allows me to have enough energy when i cast my item spells, coupled with soothing memories i can provide long term sustaining heals, and who can forget generous was tsungrai? using it with flesh of my flesh allows me to res my teammates at a higher health and dropping it ensures my health increase back by some amount. This provides me infinite res, better then a 1 time res signet don't you think?

wow you quick to call me a troll and request for a thread lock but said completely nothing with posts before me that does nothing other then calling me completely bad over a simple innocuous topic, hypocrisy much?

own age myname · Oct 15, 2009, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by harpharp

Me? troll? no way allow me to give u a step by step guide on why my build rocks!

first anguished was lingwah. This perfect item spell allows me to summon a spirit to give great damage even tho it has long casting time because i have plenty of time to cast it before arena starts.

mighty was vorizon allows me to have enough energy when i cast my item spells, coupled with soothing memories i can provide long term sustaining heals, and who can forget generous was tsungrai? using it with flesh of my flesh allows me to res my teammates at a higher health and dropping it ensures my health increase back by some amount. This provides me infinite res, better then a 1 time res signet don't you think?

wow you quick to call me a troll and request for a thread lock but said completely nothing with posts before me that does nothing other then calling me completely bad over a simple innocuous topic, hypocrisy much?

You are a troll. Read your above paragraph.